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Diamond Dug
Hi again everybody,
This is both a warning and a plea for help !!! So the TA has a bad power window motor on the drivers side when I bought it. The says he'll knockck a few bucks off the asking price because of this and says he just had the passenger side done a couples years ago for $50.00 bucks. Well to make a long tale short I buy both driverside and passenger side and decide to have them installed when I got new speakers put in the front. Driverside when in without a problem. But when we go to the otherside it seems whoever did it did not know what they where doing and drilled out the BIG rivets and replaced them with bolts and small washers. Needless to say this is not good. The bolts are flexing and breaking through the composite or fiberglass on the door that they are drillied through. My Question is has anyone else come across this kind of shodey work and is there a after market steel or alum.plate out there to repair this or how do you guys fix this screw up ???
9T8W66
Actually I've done 2 window motors and replacing the rivet's with nuts and bolts is standard procedure. Holes are drilled into the fiberglass door panel for access to the old rivets.
the rivets are then drilled out, and replaced later with nuts and bolts.
98-TA-USMC
Well I tried looking on the net but to no avail. Maybe this is a worthless idea but only thing I can think of is removing the fiberglass or composite material with the rivets and use it as a template to put all the same holes and such into an aluminum or steel plate and fit that where you removed the other material and weld it in somehow, not sure what the inside of the door looks like on a transam considering last car i did window work on was my 85 camaro. was hoping to find saomething to help but maybe my idea can do something. best bet is a new door but thats a pain even same paint codes can differ. Good luck and if i happen across something I'll let you know.
Diamond Dug
Thanks Guys I know I can always count on this forum to give me answers and ideas.

Craig, This guy drilled out the wrong rivets. He drilled out the big ones holding the whole mechanisium then removed everything to change the motor. Now that he has replaced these rivets with the bolts, the bolts are breaking the compostie due to the fact that all the torque is being placed on the bolted part. When these where installed from the factory the rivets were tight enough that there was no play in them. They sort of sit in an indentation in the panel like right behind where the arm rest would be when the trim panel is installed. The guy at my shop told me that if these bolts break through the composite my window will fall down into the door.
9T8W66
QUOTE(Diamond Dug @ Apr 16 2009, 12:16 PM) *
Thanks Guys I know I can always count on this forum to give me answers and ideas.

Craig, This guy drilled out the wrong rivets. He drilled out the big ones holding the whole mechanisium then removed everything to change the motor. Now that he has replaced these rivets with the bolts, the bolts are breaking the compostie due to the fact that all the torque is being placed on the bolted part. When these where installed from the factory the rivets were tight enough that there was no play in them. They sort of sit in an indentation in the panel like right behind where the arm rest would be when the trim panel is installed. The guy at my shop told me that if these bolts break through the composite my window will fall down into the door.


Ok now I understand what your referring to.
My God what a friggen idiot.
I do have an idea though what you need to do is reinforce the area around each of those bolts.
Maybe some big flat washers of some peices of sheetmetal to spread the load out over a larger area.
Me Too
Yup, now I understand it as well. It's common practice for GM to rivet the stuff in there--makes for less assembly problems, and I don't like it either. The best fix is to bolt the stuff into place and use large, stainless steel washers, preferably thin ones. Here's the trick--epoxy the washers into place. This strengthens the area and distributes the load onto more area. Just add the epoxy and bolt into place. The pressure on the washer will set that epoxy perfectly. Don't forget to remove any paint or dirt that would be under the washer and sandpaper the washer to clean any oil from it--it's a permanent fix.
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